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The second of November sees an upcoming exhibition that marks the first showcase of Graham Smith’s work on home shores for quite some time…and with a little grace, and a my usual verbosity I’ve had the opportunity to sit down and have a type at the keyboard with the fine sir behind some of Northern Ireland’s most iconic music photographs to date.

– A return to home shores then, it has been a while…
I have done a few small things but yes, it is my first full exhibition here since one I held in the Waterfront Hall in 2007. Although I have done many exhibitions outside this country in the intervening period, I have only done small things in Northern Ireland.

I had been asked several times about doing a solo exhibition here over the past three years and I did start planning two, but ultimately I felt like giving it a bit of space and time. Things were very different in 2007, it was around this time that my frustration with being a full-time photographer was reaching boiling point. As far as photography is concerned, this was not a happy period for me. I was also not in any way satisfied with the exhibition. Despite being given a fantastic space and the support from the organisers to do whatever I wanted, ultimately I chose to mainly display photographs of the big acts, at times ignoring if I liked the photo or not.

Now in late 2010 my photography and indeed life in general feels very different. A lot more settled and focused. 2007 seems a different lifetime. Now seems like the right time for a new solo exhibition in Northern Ireland.

– Indeed your entire working ethic is now very much an ‘on the road’ affair, working very closely on tour with And So I Watch You From Afar being the most prominent example?
I work with different acts in different capacities, but indeed much of the past eighteen months or so has been spent with ASIWYFA, who have been great to work with. This entire period has been constantly documented with my camera. Although a few shots will appear in this exhibition, I am holding back the vast majority of them from any sort of public view until sometime next year when I plan to do a book and exhibition based on my time with them. In fact I have not looked at the bulk of the photographs myself, sometimes I think it is good to leave a bit of space between shooting the images and viewing. It will definitely be laborious but fun to work through all the images I have shot of them!

As I now work as a tour manager and therefore spend a lot of time on the road, it is natural that a lot of my photographs now take on that style, but I have not intentionally set out to photograph “on the road” shots.

– …and your attitude has moved more towards a documentation of your life, rather than directly of a specific subject matter. Do you feel this is a realisation of what photography is, or that for you personally it is this way?
I am not sure if there was any massive realisation. I would say that the way I do things now was born out of frustration. Although there was a final straw “RIGHT, NO MORE OF THIS SHIT!” moment in reality when I think about it now, the process for me to go from the way I used to work to my current thinking about photography was quite a gradual process, over the course of four or five years.

I now realise that “photography” can be such a general term which can take many different aspects. It is the documentation side of it which interests me rather than the conceptual or anything else. There is nothing wrong with other types of photography, it just holds no interest or appeal to me. I prefer to see the truth captured, or at least the photographer’s version of the truth.

– Aiming less at having an agenda, trying not to label yourself in any particular manner, and focusing more on observational content – has it affected your viewpoint on how modern photographers, and photography in general is structured?
Not massively, no. It is sometimes hard to explain, but basically the way I currently think about photography has always been there since the day I first picked up a camera. The problem was these thoughts were often muddled up and buried deep under a lot of other factors, such as trying to please other people, trying to get more jobs etc…

My main thinking has never really changed, it is just I spent a bit of time stripping away all the bullshit. After doing this everything became a lot more simple, clear and concise. And enjoyable.

Recently my interest in other photographers’ work has grown like never before and I intend to work together on more group exhibitions and projects with people who share a similar viewpoint. As for how modern photography is structured, this is an area I try not to delve too deeply into, probably for fear of the old frustrations returning!

– Heading into this exhibition, and being relaxed about technical input, what are your thoughts on how important equipment is in terms of reaching a suitable quality for presentation?
Photography equipment, in general, is a subject which bugs me. A lot. At least once a day for the past decade I have received an email or been asked in person “What camera do you use?”. I also regularly get people saying things like they will be a real photographer “Once I buy the Canon 34234XDR1″ or “Once I pass my photography degree”, which definitely does get to me.

There appears to be a very unhealthy obsession with equipment and methodology and a serious lack of interest in the actual (without meaning to sound too cheesy about it) soul of the photograph. Too much emphasis seems to be put into the perfect light, or the resolution of the image or, blah, blah, blah…

It bores the hell out of me. It takes away any of the charm or magic of photography. I personally am not interested in pushing the boundaries, creating new styles etc… I just want to take photographs which are hopefully interesting now and most importantly, will still be interesting in years to come.

Of course I pay a bit of attention to cameras (and right now I am quite excited about the Fuji X100 Finepix), but what actual camera you use should not matter so much. Digital or film, £50 or £5000 – just fucking use it. I personally shoot with the absolute minimum of equipment. I don’t own a flashgun or anything like that. I often get laughed at about the cameras I use but I enjoy this reaction. Using cheaper cameras make it easier to get the relaxed style I aim for.

Who are you more likely to relax for – someone who has one small camera in their back pocket or someone who shows up with bags of lights, tripods, bulky SLR cameras, a million lenses etc…?

Grab a camera and start shooting, stop worrying so much about what you are using, make the most of what you have. I have seen stunning photographs taken on cameras which cost £10!

– This year has seen wide peer success for you, in the wake of winning last year’s Lex Van Rossen award. Do you feel any creative victory over larger, more populated music locals such as, say, London?
I would say that feeling victory over anyone or any particular scene is a little strong but yeah, I guess it does feel good that the vast majority of the photographs they judged me on were of quite unknown bands and even some friends who are not directly in the music scene. For example one photograph is just a few friends playing guitar at a party, they are not even in a band. When that sort of photograph is being judged and wins against a photograph of someone like Muse or Metallica, yeah I have to admit that does feel good.

Despite being perhaps a little blasé about it at the time, over the course of this year I have realised it was an honour to have won and it has exposed my work to a much larger audience.


– Finally, the exhibition is titled “I Like The Way This Is Going”, a statement with a direct subtext regarding home grown music, your work or…?
It is kind of a personal title, it was very spontaneous; but it seems to fit in well with everything. I had been playing around with a few different titles and was trying to make a decision when someone made me a mix with a song by The Eels on it called ‘I Like The Way This Is Going’. It was an instant decision to call it that. It has no mammoth deep meaning, but it seemed to match the way of how I am now comfortable with the way in which things are going in my own life (which feeds into my photography), my friends (many of whom are in the pictures) lives and just in general.

I like the way this is going.

The title just seems to work.

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Next Saturday sees the annual charity football tournament Roccer kick off, and with more broadcasters, fans, musicians, promoters, soundmen and writers than you can honestly put in one area code safely, there’s surely going to be more than a few tights ripped. So, I tracked down (via my keyboard) chief whip of all things ‘Rock-Soccer’, Across The Line’s very own Rigsy for a chat.

– It’s that time of year again when the sun starts shining, and out come the football boots. Roccer aims to have twenty four teams this year made up of local musicians, promoters, soundmen and fans – how did it all come about?
Roccer was set up as a day’s craic (and exercise) by myself, my mate Helen and the guys from Panda Kopanda. The first one was in 2003 and had eight teams taking part, just having a kick-about and generally wasting away a Saturday afternoon. Being a control freak and a bit over-ambitious, I took on all the organizing and got very carried away, expanding it to the overly-serious goliath it has become, removing any elements of fun, relaxation or craic along the way.

– …and the charity benefiting for 2010 is Pretty In Pink.
We’ve done it for a different charity every year – in the past Foyle Hospice, Amnesty, Marie Curie and a charity in Uganda have all got involved for various reasons and nabbed a couple of grand from Roccer. But earlier this year a friend who is going through chemotherapy recommended a breast cancer charity based here called Pretty n’ Pink and I thought it was perfect – not only is it local but it is also raising money for something pretty much everyone has been affected by at some point. It’s a privilege to be raising money for them.

– What can each of the teams expect from Roccer next Saturday?
Well of course it’s not about raising money or ‘just taking part’ or anything – none of that is important. Roccer is all about the winning. So you can expect broken limbs, punch ups and a ‘lot’ of swearing. I hope, anyway.

– Of course, events like this outside of the music ‘workplace’ give an opportunity for all different areas of the community to come together, are there any plans to expand Roccer in years to come?
I’d like to get in touch with Sepp Blatter at FIFA and see if this could replace the World Cup, if I’m totally honest.

– I imagine that despite all the fun involved, there will be a few who will be out to prove themselves to the rest of the music community, are there any budding Ronaldo’s that you know of?
Fun? It’s not a fun day out, as I explained.

As for any decent players - there are a few goalkeepers I’d keep an eye on. Philly Taggart from Colenso Parade should make strikers laugh so hard at the absolute state of him that I’d imagine he’ll be hard to score against. And Dee McAdams from Jane Bradford City looks a bit like Jesus so that’s potentially intimidating. They call him ‘The Holy Goalie‘. Steven Rainey from Radio One had a trail for Liverpool once (or was on trail in Liverpool, I can’t remember) while AFC Loserball are rumored to be playing with various forms of weaponry which should give them a bit of an edge. Oh and Femme Fatale are the same players from the video to Fragma’sI Need A Miracle‘ so I guess that could be a little distracting.

– Can you speculate on who you think will win this year going by previous seasons?
It doesn’t matter who wins, it’s just a great day ou…ha ha, only joking.

I’m not sure who will win. I usually tip The Shine Board because I always think they’ll bitch their way to the final but they’ve bottled it the last couple of years, bless ‘em. Isodisco are a smart outside bet - being a disco club night they are pretty nifty on their feet. I’ll be doing everything within my power to help Octobomb cheat their way to victory as they are absolute legends who built the Roccer website. So count yourself unlucky if your team end up against them with me as ref. And given Slaughter Patrol are actually Bayern Munich in disguise I reckon they’re worth a punt as well.

…charming.

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He’s a busy man, is Cahir O’Doherty, but I managed to steal him from behind the cogs of Fighting With Wire for a few moments today to talk about their appointment on top of the bill at this year’s Glasgowbury Music Festival.

– It has been a ‘working year’ for Fighting With Wire, most of it behind the scenes giving the machine a few new gears. How does it feel to be jumping back into gigging life with a bang this Summer?
“We’re really excited about playing again, we’ve always been a touring band so to take a year out was hard for us to do but it was worth it.”

– You’ve always had a strong relationship with the folks behind Glasgowbury, after taking a hiatus from playing it in 2009 what are your thoughts on stepping up to the plate as the tip of this year’s Glasgowbury spear?
The Glasgowbury Festival is really important to us and we were disappointed that we couldn’t make it there last year. I know we’ve been away for a while now but our new album is finished. We love playing live and it is time to come back and this is an amazing way to do it, we’re honoured that they asked us to headline this Summer.”

– How does playing more intimately organised festivals like Glasgowbury compare to the likes of Download, Reading & Leeds or Sonisphere?
“It is all about the atmosphere at a festival and Glasgowbury has the best, everyone is there for the music. The bands are always great, the punters are always up for it and the people who work behind the scenes are doing it for the love of music. I think bigger festivals have lost that spirit.”

– So the new album is being spit and polished, in Nashville no less – how has the recording experience compared to that of Man Vs Monster?
Man vs Monster was written over 5 years of touring and lineup changes were as the new record was written in just a year. We had a great producer, Nick Raskulinecz, who was amazing to work with, we learned so much from him. His expectations were high so that really pushed us and I think it paid off. We’re very proud of this record.”

– Fighting With Wire could be considered one of the first bands of this particular generation to really break out from their home island, how has it been watching the progression of local music over the last year?
“It has been quite incredible really watching it grow. Bands from here are fantastic, the standard is so high and it just keeps getting better. Glasgowbury has always been a supporter of this talent giving bands something great to work towards, their very own festival.”

– Many of the bands currently stretching out their legs from Northern Ireland have certainly been influenced by the Fighting With Wire attitude… no?
“Ha ha, I don’t know about that, though we’ve always been a hard working band and we always try to help our community when we can. I think that is what sets the NI scene apart, everyone is pulling together, it’s great.”

– Lastly, are there any surprises on the horizon for this year’s festival that you can let us in on? Planning on helicoptering onto the stage, or rolling out one of Derry’s cannons perhaps…
“Lots of smoke machines, lazers, three capes and a giant top hat that’s all that I can reveal for now.”

…can’t wait.

Fighting With Wire will be headlining the Glasgowbury Music Festival this July on the 24th at Eagle’s RockDraperstown.

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Tomorrow marks the return of the Panama Kings to the stage at Belfast’s Mandela Hall and I managed to sit down Niall Kennedy (at his computer albeit) for a bit of a chat about all things Kings.

– This is the second big Mandela hall gig for the Panama Kings in recent times. Thoughts?
“Yeah we’re very excited!”

“When we got approached to do the first one we really weren’t too sure if we were ready, but we decided to just take the risk and it was an amazing night in the end. This time around we just wanted to do a big show with some of our favourite local bands and help promote a good cause at the same time (please take your time to check out pipstraining.co.uk).”

“It made sense to do it in the Mandela again because it’s probably our favourite local venue. We’ve seen some really inspirational bands and played some really memorable shows there within various bands so it feels a bit like home for us.”

– Do you feel that ‘that’ tour with Ash has helped between these gigs?
“It was a ridiculously fun tour to be on and an experience we’ll never forget. In terms of helping us as a band, it was great to be playing a sold out show to a fresh crowd every night, but it really tests your mettle. I mean 90% of the crowd had never heard of us each night so we really had to work hard to get and keep their attention. We basically survived that tour on merch sales so I think we did ‘ok’.

“We definitely gained a lot more fans and exposure in that six weeks and I think it made us tighter not just musically but as a band.”

– You’re taking to the stage with Zealous, Cashier and Before Machines this time out, is it exciting to be able to put on a show with much more grandeur?
“Yeah, myself, Ricky and Stu have been a big fans of Cashier no.9 and Ed Zealous for years, and Before Machines are a really awesome new band that we’d seen at our club night ‘Blackout’ so there wasn’t much discussion. They were easy choices.”

– So, it has to be asked. The Panama Kings are now a three piece?
“Yes, Luke has left the band to pursue a career in London. He has other ambitions and things that he wants to do within art and he felt like he needed to do it now. He left on completely amicable terms though and we’re all very happy for him, and we all certainly remain very close friends. It was sad to see him go but as a three piece the band has a whole new energy and it’s very exciting.”

– Now that you’re a three piece, what can fans of the old format Panama Kings expect?
“The way we go about making music has changed a bit but believe it or not it’s actually a much bigger sound and there are new, fresh directions we can take the music in. It’s all very exciting to me, and just great to be able to retain the elements of our sound that we’re known for but also pull the music to other places we might not have considered as a four piece. We still very much feel like the Panama Kings, it doesn’t feel like a different band at all.”

– Looking ahead, are there any future releases in the works, can fans finally expect to get their hands on an album this year?
“Yes!”

“It’s all kind of being worked out at the minute but we will definitely be recording our debut album this Summer and before that comes out there will be another one (or two) singles released. It’s really exciting for us as there’s some really great options on the table at minute. The new material we’ve been writing as a three piece is, in my mind, the best music we’ve created yet so we really cannot wait to get it recorded and get it out there!”

Tomorrow’s show kicks off at nine and is sure to be the biggest aural event this weekend. As part of it, I will be updating on things throughout the day with a bit of backstage blogging, interviews and (genuinely) who the fuck knows what else.

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